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November 14, 2010


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Randy McDonald

Googling I found that he apparently approached Johnson looking for some kind of lend-lease of nukes. That's, hmm.

Andrew R.

I kind of wonder about something. (Teaching Western Civ 2's been great because it gets me thinking about history past 1648). Most post-independence African rulers tended to wreck their countries' economy with the worst sort of socialism. But can you really blame them in the 50s and 60s? I mean, IIRC even here in the capitalist U.S. of A. there were plenty of folks who actually thought that planned economies were more efficient. So if the thought was that dirigiste socialism was in fact the wave of the future, I wonder how much African leaders can be blamed for trying to implement it.


If what I can recall of a years-ago survey of sub-Saharan African history is correct, most of the countries' leaders went abroad to study. The majority, like the late, unlamented Julius Nyrere, studied social sciences, education, and other disciplines notorious for their appreciation of economic fantasies. The European and British academies were hotbeds of Marxism (still are, for all I know) Andrew is right: the evils of post-colonialism are probably overrated, but Europe wrecked these countries nonetheless.

Noel Maurer

Robert Bates, "Markets and States in Tropical Africa." Andrew, if the course is what I think it is, this is something you should read. It's short and directly addresses your question.

tim gueguen

It would be interesting to see a list of developing world countries that had a nuclear program, however unlikely, in the '50s and '60s. I'm sure there are probably some other surprising examples besides Zambia.

Andrew R.

Thanks for the reference, Noel!


That interview where the black nationalist justifies Burton's murder is depressing - he doesn't seem to understand that what they did was wrong - Burton didn't deserve death and her two children certainly didn't

Judy Witt

I was a witness to this murder - it was the wrong place at the wrong time at least that is why I was there. Perhaps it was 'used'to promote a ruthless party? Returning from a hockey game at Mufulira we came upon a scene that will remain with me for ever. Travelling towards Ndola going home a car approached us some distance away. What we saw was many, many black men running onto the road stopping the car, hurling bricks and smashing windows. They appeared to be insane or drunk and in a frenzy. We were now too close to turn around but drove through the mob who turned their attention on us. Smashing windows jumping on the car they deperately tried to stop us. I felt us hit some of them and the last thing I saw was Mrs Burton with arms covering her face as they splashed petrol on her car and I put my bleeding head in my lap. We were lucky thanks to our driver. I had just turned 16.

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